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Hmmph. I wantd the Pippin picture too, but I never did learn any elvish beyond "namarie" and haven't read the Silmarillion. Comes of being too hobbit-centric, I guess... elves are fine and all, but it just kills me every time that they get to travel off and live forever and hobbits don't. What was Tolkien thinking? Is this some kind of salvation deal for one race only?? That's why I read LOTR three times in a row straight through including The Hobbit, when I was 16 and first introduced to Tolkien -- I couldn't bear the ending, just couldn't bear it, and had to plunge right back into the beginning until I just wore myself out with it. And then, when my curiosity got the better of me and I delved too deeply into the the appendices, and learned what finally happened to Merry and Pippin... oh, that just tore it. Every other bloody member of the Fellowship *including* the dwarf gets to go to the Blessed Realm, except Merry and Pippin (oh okay, Aragorn and Boromir too, but my heart wasn't with them the same way). Oh, I couldn't leave off with just that, either, and had to go and read Christopher Tolkien's History of the Lord of the Rings, with all its "fair copies" and third and fourth rewrites -- and learned that Tolkien actually considered killing off *Pippin* -- he was thinking of having a hobbit die, and wrote something like "it would have to be the cowardly Pippin doing something brave." Aaargh! Now I'm in a real state, bashing Tolkien *and* the almighty canon... better quit while I'm somewhat ahead and before someone takes a contract out on me. Guess I better learn how to post my rants on a separately linked page too....
I've been lightheaded and dizzy all day, don't know why -- even took my iron pill. Maybe I'll go out with my printout of THoU and try to turn my white skin brown without getting skin cancer. I'm the palest person in California.
who_took:How
obsessed are you?
By Lisa
Hmmph. I wantd the Pippin picture too, but I never did learn any elvish beyond "namarie" and haven't read the Silmarillion. Comes of being too hobbit-centric, I guess... elves are fine and all, but it just kills me every time that they get to travel off and live forever and hobbits don't. What was Tolkien thinking? Is this some kind of salvation deal for one race only?? That's why I read LOTR three times in a row straight through including The Hobbit, when I was 16 and first introduced to Tolkien -- I couldn't bear the ending, just couldn't bear it, and had to plunge right back into the beginning until I just wore myself out with it. And then, when my curiosity got the better of me and I delved too deeply into the the appendices, and learned what finally happened to Merry and Pippin... oh, that just tore it. Every other bloody member of the Fellowship *including* the dwarf gets to go to the Blessed Realm, except Merry and Pippin (oh okay, Aragorn and Boromir too, but my heart wasn't with them the same way). Oh, I couldn't leave off with just that, either, and had to go and read Christopher Tolkien's History of the Lord of the Rings, with all its "fair copies" and third and fourth rewrites -- and learned that Tolkien actually considered killing off *Pippin* -- he was thinking of having a hobbit die, and wrote something like "it would have to be the cowardly Pippin doing something brave." Aaargh! Now I'm in a real state, bashing Tolkien *and* the almighty canon... better quit while I'm somewhat ahead and before someone takes a contract out on me. Guess I better learn how to post my rants on a separately linked page too....
I've been lightheaded and dizzy all day, don't know why -- even took my iron pill. Maybe I'll go out with my printout of THoU and try to turn my white skin brown without getting skin cancer. I'm the palest person in California.
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Date: June 23rd, 2002 04:28 pm (UTC)You know the thing that *really* upset me (and still does)? Gandalf tells Merry and Pippin that Frodo is going to the Blessed realm, *not* because they were his cousins and deserve to say goodbye, *not* because they were also part of the Fellowship and deserve to see this chapter of the quest come to a close, but because Sam's going to be lonely travelling home without them. It's not about them at all. I can understand Frodo not telling them because I think he'd become so remote and removed from the rest of the world that it didn't even register; but even though I'm sure Gandalf didn't mean it like that, it's the "You're just baggage for the ride home" that annoys me. It's what got me started on writing 'Embers' :-)
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Date: June 23rd, 2002 07:17 pm (UTC)Re:
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Date: June 23rd, 2002 07:33 pm (UTC)KILLING THE COWARDLY PIPPIN?!?
Date: June 25th, 2002 06:04 pm (UTC)StupidgoddamnVictorianWesternCivPatriarchalMindset. Never did understand Chaos Theory, did they? Or Serendipity, nooooo. It's all being Called and Chosen and Pure and PerfectInSpiteOfOurNastySelves.
/white owl considers spitting on Tolkien's grave, but resists/
That last chapter? Yeah, it was all about poor Sam, and it *never* sat right wiht me that Merry and Pippin would be so happy and easy and laughing after that. NEVER.
COWARDLY PIPPIN????
/white owl flies off in a prodigious snit!/ and even more!
And oh, dear, I've burned supper...
Re: KILLING THE COWARDLY PIPPIN?!?
Date: June 25th, 2002 07:09 pm (UTC)